| Re: Contest: [message #209466 is a reply to message #209413] |
Fri, 15 December 2006 00:36   |
Frank
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Barbara, I agree we all were newbies once (heck, we still make stupid mistakes every day).
BUT (there is always a but)...
The conditions regarding your first post, in the early days, cannot be compared with the people posting today. Back then, there was AltaVista that sometimes could find you something; there were just a few companies that provided more info on their website than just their address.
Nowadays, people are used to google, tons of info and the fact that you can find about anything, if you make an effort
The thing that irritates me the most, is the fact that some posters obviously did not make such an effort.
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| Re: Contest: [message #211293 is a reply to message #209466] |
Wed, 27 December 2006 18:48 |
rleishman
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This is freaky. Recently posted to by a newbie after almost 12 months of inactivity, but have a look at how many newbies have posted a reply!
15 of the 19 posts are by members with 5 or fewer posts.
2 of the remaining 4 posts are by members with fewer than 25 posts.
A staggering 10 posts by members for whom this is their only post!
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| Re: Contest: [message #211332 is a reply to message #211293] |
Thu, 28 December 2006 00:27 |
Frank
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LOL
The sheer NONSENSE given as answers...
This one really is the best: | Quote: | 2.Function do not return the images,text whereas sp returns all.
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And this bold statement:
| Quote: | 4) function parameters are always IN, no OUT is possible
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| Re: Contest: [message #211689 is a reply to message #211673] |
Sun, 31 December 2006 20:39 |
rleishman
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Classic! I reckon if you fished around, you might find a moderator of the Newbies forum (perhaps with a handle beginning with M) who merged all of these. (but it would be funnier if I was wrong)
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| Re: Contest: [message #212078 is a reply to message #211689] |
Wed, 03 January 2007 12:52 |
joy_division
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Nope, these were not merged (as far as I can tell). They would have to have the "merged" in the subject line I think, plus each message is a response to a previous message in the thread.
I must add that I have found this thread to be hilarious. what kind of response is Dtaabase and baheoooz subject?
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| Re: Contest: [message #262559 is a reply to message #262414] |
Mon, 27 August 2007 08:57 |
joy_division
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Senior member only by number of messages (or questions asked). Try to find one question by this person that cannot be answered by someone who just starting learning Oracle on the same day.
This poor soul has a learning disability that does not allow them to understand the most basic answer, has no idea how to use the internet to find an answer, does not know how to read since links to documentation have been provided in almost all 150 questions.
It is best to ignore this person hoping they will go away and never work for your company, although I'd question the company or person who would hire someone like this. They must be one hell of an actor.
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| Re: Contest: [message #262596 is a reply to message #262583] |
Mon, 27 August 2007 16:04 |
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Barbara Boehmer
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Unfortunately, I have seen a few cases where such people get hired. In some cases, it is due to nepotism, where they are hired by a family member or by a friend of a family member as a favor, and everybody knows this and therefore tolerates them and just works around them or does their work for them. In other cases, it is to fulfill some sort of quota, showing that they hire people from various races and such and do not discriminate against people with disabilities, regardless of qualifications or lack thereof.
I have seen a pattern where such people are raised in what is intended to be an encouraging environment, but is overdone, and falsely leads them to believe that they can do anything. Some of these encouraging people have good intentions and do not realize what a disservice they are doing. Some are just concerned with receiving attendance fees. There are regular colleges that offer special classes for people with learning disabilities. They offer the same course names as regular classes, but the grading system is drastically different. People who get an A on a final exam in such classes might fail the same test if it were graded according to the standards of a regular class. They can also get extra credit for the most minor things. This falsely leads them to believe that they are excellent students.
When such people finally get away from the sheltered environments of such homes and schools and encounter the real world, they tend to incorrectly perceive the rest of the world as mean and do not realize that most criticisms received are true and not unduly harsh. Some eventually realize that they have been misled and wasted years of effort preparing for things they cannot do, instead of preparing for what they realistically can do. Others are given menial tasks or useless tasks and retained just to placate their relatives or fulfill the quotas. Sometimes it takes other people more time to fix what they mess up than if they had done it themselves to begin with.
I should also point out that there are many people with various disabilities, physical or learning, who can successfully do various jobs. I have seen some good programmers with disabilities, some confined to a wheelchair, some deaf and mute, some who have overcome dyslexia, and so forth. It seems that sometimes the inability to do physical things may cause people to focus more time on things that require mental effort. The famous Stephen Hawking might be a good example of this phenomena. He is well-known for having both extreme physical disabilities and extremely superior mental abilities, sometimes referred to as the most intelligent man in the world. He is paralyzed, confined to a wheelchair, unable to talk without the aid of a special instrument, but has authored books on theoretical physics.
Sometimes it is hard to tell, especially just from forum posts, whether there is a learning disability or laziness or language barrier. One of the more difficult problems to overcome seems to be "visual learning". Although they might be able to learn initially from only visual material, such people might have problems in the workplace where not everything is visual. Some might do fine if everything can be presented in that manner. In some places, laws exist that may require employers to accommodate any and all disabilities. Wheelchair access is commonly required in all work environments. Comically, I even read recently where an employer was required to install a wheelchair ramp to the stage at his strip club, even though there had never been any strippers who used wheelchairs. But, who knows, someday he might be required to hire one to fulfill a quota. I have seen special communications devices for the deaf and hearing impaired provided, including a string of Christmas tree lights wrapped around the cubicle that flashed when the special phone rang. Some day employers may be required to provide everything visually to the "visual learners".
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| Re: Contest: [message #279448 is a reply to message #279429] |
Thu, 08 November 2007 08:17 |
joy_division
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Heh, that's a good one. I even gave a stab at answering. I was going to write it one paper, scan it and post it, but it was going to take too much time.
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| Vague [message #313938 is a reply to message #196380] |
Tue, 15 April 2008 04:34 |
pablolee
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I remember there being a thread about the most vague/useless/ridiculous questions being here somewhere, but I can't find it (probably can't see it for looking  ) Anyway, I just found this on OTN. Brilliant
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